"We hope to depose officials who know how things have operated there for a long time, like Bertone and Sodano*" Jeff Anderson 7/6/2010
In one video at CofA today a bishop says, "It was wrong taking comfort from children," and an ex-Catholic who is now a street minister in England responds in outrage on YouTube. Also in ROUNDUP this week, a music video of "There's No End" by Magdalen Graal, which may leave you feeling prickly.
First, City of Angels had a quick conversation by phone with Jeff Anderson, asking what are next steps the St. Paul MN attorney will take in pursuit of deposing the Pope and Vatican officials in Doe v. Holy See:
CofA: Who will you try to depose first, as you work your way up to the Pope? What is the first step?
Anderson: We go back now to the trial court in Oregon, with a discovery plan. We have yet to propose that to the Court, we're formulating it now. We'll work up the line and we hope to get depositions from high ranking officials in the Vatican, the ones who know how things have operated there for a long time, like [Tarcisio] Bertone and [Angelo] Sodano.*
(Pictured left Bush, Benedict, and Bertone 2008 AP.)
Depending on how those depositions go and what position the Vatican takes in court, we'll have battles to fight.
Many of these depositions we'll be taking in Rome. The first persons we'll go after will be in Rome.
The judge will decide the pace, in hearings in Federal Court, what depositions we can and can’t take, what documents are discoverable and which aren’t.
Q: Will transcripts of the depositions end up on your website?
A: I will do everything I can to get as much information as we can out there publicly, but we have to be very prudent.
Doe v. Holy See hearings take place in Federal District Court in Portland, Oregon. Judge is Michael W. Mosman. Case #CV-02-00430
(Warning, May Offend or Trigger)
Like it or not, it happened and we all have to reel in the residual effects.
The Image of Catholic Priests raping children is now inevitably fusing into our arts and culture, so City of Angels is running There's No End video / song by Magdalen Graal who gives away her music for free at that site and here.
Video Above is especially hard for adult victims like me, in my "category," sexualized by a priest as pre-adolescent females to watch, as believe it or not, the video makes me excited, as in sexually aroused, horny. I publish this very personal information here only to let the world see just how sick the pedophile epidemic in the Catholic Church made some of us.
PLUS: The music, Graal's voice, is amazing:
More Music Video
New video of Roger Mahony hymn:
Background on this song: (From YouTube:) "I wrote tһіѕ song іח reaction tο tһе ongoing horrors tһаt continue tο surface аbουt molestations οf children bу priests. I аm particularly bewildered аѕ tο wһу Roger Mahony іѕ still a man οf ɡrеаt power іח tһе Catholic Church аחԁ I welcome explanations аѕ tο wһу frοm anyone wһο mіɡһt share tһеіr opinion οr insight. Wе consider tһіѕ nightmare tο bе tһе mοѕt evil betrayal οf children’s Ɩονе аחԁ trust іח ουr history." Read more:
From Jamaica Observer, July 4, 2010
By Sharon Leach
All in all, I'd say the past couple of weeks have been bad for the church. Well, their PR machinery. First, we had to be subjected to a preening Al Miller ... Then, as if that wasn't enough, the report of the pope raising holy hell about the Belgian police raiding the cathedral and chancery of the Brussels archdiocese in response to another round of sex abuse allegations and cover-ups...
What horrifies me is the fine lather the Church has worked itself into about the, well, violation of its rights by the police. Hello? What about the violation of the rights of all the victims who've been coming forward over the past years to voice the abuse they've had to suffer at the hands of certain paedophiles disguising themselves as priests? The scandals simply refuse to die. You'd have thought the Holy Father would be relieved at the intervention of civil law since canon law, with all due respect, seems to be hurting more than it is helping. Where was his righteous indignation when the allegations of those abominations were coming fast and furious?
Apparently, it was a stealth raid. (The best kind, really.) The Belgian bishops were pounced on, so to speak, and basically sequestered within the building, deprived of their cell phones, etc. (A Greg Christie move, basically, so no paper shredding could take place or sensitive files removed to someone's home for 'safekeeping'.) Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the Vatican Secretary of State voiced the Vatican's shock and outrage at the incident, saying "there are not precedents — not even under the old Communist regimes". And a spokesman for the archdiocese has suggested that there may be grounds for a lawsuit against the police. Are these people for real?
This is why organised religion is losing much of its relevance today
MORE UNUSUAL NEWS:
From Politics Daily July 8, 2010
Vatican's New Rules Against Child Sex Abusers to Maintain Status Quo
The Vatican is expected to slightly enhance its rules for punishing clergy who sexually abuse children, but the new policies, likely to be announced within days, will still fall short of what victim advocates say is necessary to protect minors. Moreover, the changes are seen as fairly minor concessions in a decades-long battle to push Rome to act forcefully against abusers. In addition, the new policy, which has reportedly been signed by Pope Benedict XVI, still has no provision for dealing with bishops who cover up for molesting priests and it is unlikely to clarify whether or how bishops should report abusers to civil authorities.
From Ex Catholics for Christ in England:
Ex Catholics for Christ is an open air father and son ministry, based on Romans 10, here from NIV translation:
10:3 "Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. 4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone."
Better expressing how City of Angels feels about it, THE MESSAGE Translation of Romans 10:3:
"They are doing everything exactly backward. They don't seem to realize that this comprehensive setting-things-right that is salvation is God's business. Right across the street they set up their own salvation shops and noisily hawk their wares. After all these years of refusing to really deal with God on his terms, insisting instead on making their own deals, they have nothing to show for it."
Look at all this coverage over embezzlement Compared to sex crimes of one priest in one town: WHO CARES about One Million Dollars? Hundreds of thousands of lives were destroyed at an early age!!!
Catholic priest Kevin Gray stole $1M and spent it on male escorts: police - New York Daily News - Jul 7, 2010 - A disgruntled Catholic priest was charged Tuesday with raiding church coffers to finance a double life befitting a mogul - and to pay for male escorts. ...
Waterbury priest charged with stealing $1M - Part 1 - WTNH - Jul 6, 2010 - A former pastor of a Roman Catholic parish in Waterbury is facing larceny charges. 64-year-old Rev. Kevin J. Gray is accused of stealing over $1 million of ...
Waterbury priest charged with stealing $1M - Part 2 - WTNH - Jul 6, 2010 - A Waterbury priest is accused of stealing more than $1million to pay for a lavish lifestyle faced a judge. Kevin Grey, the former pastor at Sacred Heart ...
Priest 'steals $1.5m to pay male escorts' - Herald Sun - Jul 6, 2010 - A ROMAN Catholic Priest was charged with stealing $1.3 million from his parish over seven years to pay for male escorts, hotels, meals and clothing. ...
Catholic priest in America 'stole church funds to pay for male escorts' - The Guardian - Jul 6, 2010 A Roman Catholic priest has been arrested over claims he stole $1.3m (£750000) in church money over seven years. He allegedly spent it on male escorts, ...
Catholic priest stole $1.3 million to pay for male prostitutes - Times LIVE (blog) - A Roman Catholic priest has been arrested on charges he stole $1.3 million in church money over seven years to use for male prostitutes, expensive clothing, ...
Priest Confesses To Shocking Use Of Embezzled Church Funds - OverTheLimit.info (blog) - On Tuesday morning 64 year old Roman, Catholic priest, Kevin Gray, turned himself into the Waterbury, Mass Police department after having learned of a ...
Connecticut priest used $1.3 million from the church's money to lead a double ... Thaindian.com - Aishwarya Bhatt - Connecticut, July 8 (THAINDIAN NEWS) A Connecticut priest was discovered to have led a flamboyant double life that even included male escorts.
WHEN A PEDOPHILE PRIEST ACCUSATION
barely evokes a media ripple:
New Haven Man Files Lawsuit Against Seymour Priest - Valley Independent Sentinel - Eugene Driscoll - Jul 7, 2010 - A New Haven man filed a civil lawsuit Wednesday against a Seymour priest, claiming the Rev. ...
Man Accuses Seymour Priest Of Abusing Him When He Was An Altar Boy - Hartford Courant - Dave Altimari - Jul 7, 2010
A 34-year-old man filed a lawsuit Wednesday accusing the current pastor at a Roman Catholic Church in Seymour of ...
New Clergy Sex Abuse Lawsuit Filed Against Diocese of Orlando and Indiana Bishop - PR Newswire (press release) - Jul 7, 2010 - ORLANDO, Fla., July 7 /PRNewswire/ -- The Miami law firm of Mermelstein & Horowitz, PA, announces the filing of a new lawsuit alleging that a Roman Catholic ...
Lawsuit: Conn. priest bribed sexual abuse victim - The Associated Press - John Christoffersen - Jul 7, 2010 - NEW HAVEN, Con. — A Connecticut man filed a lawsuit Wednesday accusing a Roman Catholic pastor of sexually abusing him when he was a boy and trying to buy ...
Lawsuit accuses Conn. priest of sexual abuse - Newsday (subscription) - John Christoffersen - Jul 7, 2010 - (AP) — A Connecticut man has filed a lawsuit accusing the pastor of a Roman Catholic church in Seymour of sexually abusing him when he was a boy and trying ...
Former altar boy accuses Seymour priest of abuse Read the lawsuit complaint here - Waterbury Republican American - Quannah Leonard - July 8, 2010 - SEYMOUR -- A New Haven man has filed a lawsuit against a local Roman Catholic priest, accusing the pastor of ...
Seymour priest accused of sex abuse in lawsuit - Middletown Press - Lauren Garrison - July 8, 2010 - William Dotson never told anyone about the sexual abuse he says he suffered at the hands of a priest when ...
Suit accuses Seymour priest of sex abuse at New Haven church (document) - New Haven Register (subscription) - Lauren Garrison - Jul 7, 2010 - The priest at St. Augustine Church in Seymour is accused of sexually abusing an altar boy while serving at St. Francis ...
That's only a sampling, this story of a million dollars embezzled by a priest is running everywhere, and when another one rapes a kid it almost gets buried...
RE Future Depositions by Anderson Advocates in Rome: *Tarcisio Bertone is Vatican Secretary of State, Angelo Sodano is the Italian Cardinal at The Vatican who said: "The people of God [are] not impressed by the petty gossip of the moment," -in his address as Dean of the College of Cardinals to Pope Benedict XVI at Easter 2010, always to be remembered as the cardinal who referred to the pedophile epidemic in the Catholic Church as petty gossip... petty gossip... petty gossip!!!!!
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